In 1996, the Nash FD asked me to serve as their Fire Chaplain due to some very serious incidents they had experienced.  I agreed to serve if they allowed me to join the FD as a FF.  I then began training to help them by attending Critical Incident Stress Management, Advanced CISM, and Peer CISM.  I also earned my FF 1 certification and my EMT-B certification.   I also helped form the NW Oklahoma CISM team.  

Since 1978, I have pastored Bethel Hawley Baptist Church of Nash, OK.  My wife and I have 2 children and 7 grandchildren.